[NIFL-POVRACELIT:1535] Do we live in a racist and classist society?

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NIFL-POVRACELIT Colleagues,

The NPR radio program,  All Things Considered, this past weekend had  
an intensely moving, one-hour piece called "After The Flood" which is  
pertinent to this discussion.  On many public radio stations it will  
be re-broadcast this weekend. (See http://www.thislife.org/  for  
schedule.)  It is also available through podcasts and, for a nominal  
cost, directly from NPR.

David J. Rosen
djrosen@comcast.net

On Sep 9, 2005, at 12:21 PM, Andres Muro wrote:

> In light of the UN report and the impact of the hurricane, do we  
> live in
> a racist and classist society?
>
> Many would argue that we don't because our system does not
> intentionally take actions to prevent poor people and minorities from
> improving their social, economic conditions. This argument is
> questionable, however, assuming that this argument is correct, ie,
> nobody intentionally discriminates against the poor or minorities,  
> do we
> live in a classist, racist society.
>
> History, societies and events are no assessed by the intention of the
> actors, but the consequences of the actions. So, we judge periods of
> historical times, not by the intentions of Washington, Queen  
> Elizabeth,
> GW, Osama, but by the circumstances that were created.
>
> Racism and classism are defined as the differential treatment or
> consequences to a group given by certain circumstances. In other  
> words,
> if given some conditions, or events, one group is impacted more
> negatively than another, then, there are social conditions that result
> in the discrimination of the group that suffered adversely.  If the
> group that suffered more adversity are the poor, then we have a  
> classist
> society. If the group that suffered  more adversity are an ethnic
> minority, then we have racism, and so on and so for. Poverty is  
> proof of
> classism, because a group is already suffering adverse conditions that
> they cannot overcome. Even if the intention of the society is to  
> create
> the conditions for people to overcome poverty, as long as a  
> significant
> group cannot overcome it, then we have a classist society.
>
> Now, looking at the events in Louisiana, did black people suffered  
> more
> adversity than members of other ethnic groups, as a result of the
> circumstances? the answer is a resounding yes. Therefore, we have a
> racist society. Even if nobody wants to see blacks suffering and we  
> all
> love blacks like we love our moms, the fact that blacks suffered much
> more adversity than other groups shows that we live in a racist  
> society.
>
>
> Another thing: racism is not determined from the point of view of  
> those
> in power, but from the perspective of the victims. If it were measured
> by the point of view of those in power, then they will claim that  
> we did
> not have racism, because they did not intend to discriminate.
>
> So, given the fact that we do live in a racist society according to  
> the
> analysis of the UN report and the consequences of the hurricane,  
> what do
> we do? A society must change the conditions so that those that suffer
> more adversity than others stop suffering more adversity. It is as
> simple as that. As long as we don't systematically work towards  
> changing
> the conditions so that some groups stop experiencing more  
> adversity, we
> will continue to be a racist society.
>
> So, we can wear the labels proudly and admit that we are a bunch of
> racists, classists and sexists, or we change the conditions and create
> an egalitarian society.
>
> What do you all think? How does this relate to literacy? Do minorities
> have lower literacy achievement? Does this make us racist?
>
> Andres
>
>
>
>>>> macorley1@earthlink.net 9/8/2005 6:35:48 PM >>>
>>>>
> UN Hits Back at US in Report Saying Parts of America Are as Poor as
> Third
> World
>
> By Paul Vallely
>     The Independent UK
> http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/090805L.shtml
>     Thursday 08 September 2005
>
> Parts of the United States are as poor as the Third World, according
> to
> a shocking United Nations report on global inequality.
>
> Claims that the New Orleans floods have laid bare a growing racial and
> economic divide in the US have, until now, been rejected by the
> American
> political establishment as emotional rhetoric. But yesterday's UN
> report
> provides statistical proof that for many - well beyond those affected
> by the
> aftermath of Hurricane Katrina - the great American Dream is an
> ongoing
> nightmare.
>
> The document constitutes a stinging attack on US policies at home and
> abroad in a fightback against moves by Washington to undermine next
> week's
> UN 60th anniversary conference which will be the biggest gathering of
> world
> leaders in history.
>
> The annual Human Development Report normally concerns itself with the
> Third World, but the 2005 edition scrutinises inequalities in health
> provision inside the US as part of a survey of how inequality  
> worldwide
> is
> retarding the eradication of poverty.
>
> It reveals that the infant mortality rate has been rising in the US
> for
> the past five years - and is now the same as Malaysia. America's black
> children are twice as likely as whites to die before their first
> birthday.
>
> The report is bound to incense the Bush administration as it provides
> ammunition for critics who have claimed that the fiasco following
> Hurricane
> Katrina shows that Washington does not care about poor black  
> Americans.
> But
> the 370-page document is critical of American policies towards poverty
> abroad as well as at home. And, in unusually outspoken language, it
> accuses
> the US of having "an overdeveloped military strategy and an
> under-developed
> strategy for human security".
>
> "There is an urgent need to develop a collective security framework
> that
> goes beyond military responses to terrorism," it continues. " Poverty
> and
> social breakdown are core components of the global security threat."
>
> The document, which was written by Kevin Watkins, the former head of
> research at Oxfam, will be seen as round two in the battle between the
> UN
> and the US, which regards the world body as an unnecessary constraint
> on its
> strategic interests and actions.
>
> Last month John Bolton, the new US ambassador to the UN, submitted 750
> amendments to the draft declaration for next week's summit to
> strengthen the
> UN and review progress towards its Millennium Development Goals to
> halve
> world poverty by 2015.
>
> The report launched yesterday is a clear challenge to Washington. The
> Bush administration wants to replace multilateral solutions to
> international
> problems with a world order in which the US does as it likes on a
> bilateral
> basis.
>
> "This is the UN coming out all guns firing," said one UN insider. "It
> means that, even if we have a lame duck secretary general after the
> Volcker
> report (on the oil-for-food scandal), the rest of the organisation is
> not
> going to accept the US bilateralist agenda."
>
> The clash on world poverty centres on the US policy of promoting
> growth
> and trade liberalisation on the assumption that this will trickle down
> to
> the poor. But this will not stop children dying, the UN says. Growth
> alone
> will not reduce poverty so long as the poor are denied full access to
> health, education and other social provision. Among the world's poor,
> infant
> mortality is falling at less than half of the world average. To tackle
> that
> means tackling inequality - a message towards which John Bolton and
> his
> fellow US neocons are deeply hostile.
>
> India and China, the UN says, have been very successful in wealth
> creation but have not enabled the poor to share in the process. A
> rapid
> decline in child mortality has therefore not materialised. Indeed,  
> when
> it
> comes to reducing infant deaths, India has now been overtaken by
> Bangladesh,
> which is only growing a third as fast.
>
> Poverty could be halved in just 17 years in Kenya if the poorest
> people
> were enabled to double the amount of economic growth they can achieve
> at
> present.
>
> Inequality within countries is as stark as the gaps between countries,
> the UN says. Poverty is not the only issue here. The death rate for
> girls in
> India is now 50 per cent higher than for boys. Gender bias means girls
> are
> not given the same food as boys and are not taken to clinics as often
> when
> they are ill. Foetal scanning has also reduced the number of girls
> born.
>
> The only way to eradicate poverty, it says, is to target inequalities.
> Unless that is done the Millennium Development Goals will never be  
> met.
> And
> 41 million children will die unnecessarily over the next 10 years.
> Decline in health care
>
> Child mortality is on the rise in the United States
>
> For half a century the US has seen a sustained decline in the number
> of
> children who die before their fifth birthday. But since 2000 this  
> trend
> has
> been reversed.
>
> Although the US leads the world in healthcare spending - per head of
> population it spends twice what other rich OECD nations spend on
> average, 13
> per cent of its national income - this high level goes
> disproportionately on
> the care of white Americans. It has not been targeted to eradicate
> large
> disparities in infant death rates based on race, wealth and state of
> residence.
>
> The infant mortality rate in the US is now the same as in Malaysia
>
> High levels of spending on personal health care reflect America's
> cutting-edge medical technology and treatment. But the paradox at the
> heart
> of the US health system is that, because of inequalities in health
> financing, countries that spend substantially less than the US have,
> on
> average, a healthier population. A baby boy from one of the top 5 per
> cent
> richest families in America will live 25 per cent longer than a boy
> born in
> the bottom 5 per cent and the infant mortality rate in the US is the
> same as
> Malaysia, which has a quarter of America's income.
>
> Blacks in Washington DC have a higher infant death rate than people in
> the Indian state of Kerala
>
> The health of US citizens is influenced by differences in insurance,
> income, language and education. Black mothers are twice as likely as
> white
> mothers to give birth to a low birthweight baby. And their children  
> are
> more
> likely to become ill.
>
> Throughout the US black children are twice as likely to die before
> their
> first birthday.
>
> Hispanic Americans are more than twice as likely as white Americans to
> have no health cover
>
> The US is the only wealthy country with no universal health insurance
> system. Its mix of employer-based private insurance and public  
> coverage
> does
> not reach all Americans. More than one in six people of working age
> lack
> insurance. One in three families living below the poverty line are
> uninsured. Just 13 per cent of white Americans are uninsured, compared
> with
> 21 per cent of blacks and 34 per cent of Hispanic Americans. Being  
> born
> into
> an uninsured household increases the probability of death before the
> age of
> one by about 50 per cent.
>
> More than a third of the uninsured say that they went without medical
> care last year because of cost
>
> Uninsured Americans are less likely to have regular outpatient care,
> so
> they are more likely to be admitted to hospital for avoidable health
> problems.
>
> More than 40 per cent of the uninsured do not have a regular place to
> receive medical treatment. More than a third say that they or someone
> in
> their family went without needed medical care, including prescription
> drugs,
> in the past year because they lacked the money to pay.
>
> If the gap in health care between black and white Americans was
> eliminated it would save nearly 85,000 lives a year. Technological
> improvements in medicine save about 20,000 lives a year.
>
> Child poverty rates in the United States are now more than 20 per
> cent.
>
> Child poverty is a particularly sensitive indicator for income poverty
> in rich countries. It is defined as living in a family with an income
> below
> 50 per cent of the national average.
>
> The US - with Mexico - has the dubious distinction of seeing its child
> poverty rates increase to more than 20 per cent. In the UK - which at
> the
> end of the 1990s had one of the highest child poverty rates in  
> Europe -
> the
> rise in child poverty, by contrast, has been reversed through  
> increases
> in
> tax credits and benefits.
>
>
>
>



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